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Ntje
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Banned because of Clones

Postby Ntje » Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:40 pm

Hey, we're an Shell renting compagny and people who r on efnet thrue a BNC are getting banned because of clones:

(18:32:21) (-psyBNC) Fri Nov 7 18:32:24 :User Ntje () trying efnet.vuurwerk.nl port 6667 (62.41.27.20).
(18:32:21) (-psyBNC) Fri Nov 7 18:32:24 :User Ntje () connected to efnet.vuurwerk.nl:6667 (62.41.27.20)
(18:32:28) (-psyBNC) Fri Nov 7 18:32:30 :User Ntje () got disconnected (from efnet.vuurwerk.nl) Reason: Closing Link: 62.41.27.20 (*** Banned )
(18:32:28) -irc.efnet.nl- *** Banned Temporary K-line 1440 min. - clones [monkster] (2003/11/7 16.05)


We have the whole 62.41.27.* range... maybe u can see what u can do for us? U can reach me @ nealpeters@chello.nl

or just reply here :) i'll check it!
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Postby lucy » Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:51 pm

you should tell the people renting shells from you that you only allow 2-3 connections to efnet and to not put them all on one server.

chances are people are letting all their friends use the psybnc's which is a bad bad thing.

psybnc's are evil because of that!
Ntje
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Postby Ntje » Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:10 pm

We have about 300 Users registered.. so can't tell them that...

I hope i can get trust or something that more people can use a vhost...
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Postby lucy » Sat Nov 08, 2003 12:34 am

then they will continue to get klined for clones.
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Postby -wassup- » Sat Nov 08, 2003 2:02 am

then go onto differnet servers. that may help unless the tcm bots start communicating and get you multiple klined/glined.
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Postby Hwy » Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:08 am

TCM's and OOmon's often communicate with SERVICES (/msg SERVICES@services.xo help) and will ban user@host clones on multiple servers (The default is to allow up to 3, banning 4 or over). It may be a good idea to limit the number of bots runnable under one account, and disallow sharing of BNC connections.
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Re: Banned because of Clones

Postby tabarnac » Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:44 am

Ntje wrote: (18:32:28) (-psyBNC) Fri Nov 7 18:32:30 :User Ntje () got disconnected (from efnet.vuurwerk.nl) Reason: Closing Link: 62.41.27.20 (*** Banned )
(18:32:28) -irc.efnet.nl- *** Banned Temporary K-line 1440 min. - clones [monkster] (2003/11/7 16.05)
Avoid vuurwerk/efnet.nl, they can be compared to nazis over vhosts. No big deal crying over that efnet server.
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Re: Banned because of Clones

Postby Beige » Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:30 pm

Ntje wrote:Hey, we're an Shell renting compagny and people who r on efnet thrue a BNC are getting banned because of clones:
There really is no good reason why a single user would need to connect more than 2 clients to EFnet from the same machine/account. Having 2 clients/connections guards against missing a scintillating conversation if one server splits, but any additional clients will face diminishing returns very quickly.

The most likely cause for the clone bans is multiple users sharing BNC connections through the same account (perhaps resulting in 3, 4, 5 or more client connections via a PsyBNC). If you think it is wise for you (as a business) to allow such an amount of connections via your IP range, you might consider adding additional usernames per customer. In the long run, however, you will probably find it easier on yourselves to apply reasonable limits to how many clients people can connect to EFnet via your service.

irc.efnet.nl is also not the only IRC server on EFnet. In fact, you should be able to connect on most client servers, as long as there isn't too much redundant cloning going on.

Either way, good luck.

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