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Postby strikelight » Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:11 pm

We need Windows based servers then too, just incase there's a flaw that exploits all flavors of *IX :mrgreen:

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Postby tiz » Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:29 pm

Yeah, a MS server, called irc.dcom.com or irc.rpc.com... irc.easytohackme.com works too.

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Postby clunked » Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:58 pm

Auriga wrote: Pessimists!!!!!

Actually... when it really comes down to it..
Having more then one ircd helps keep servers stable..

Think about it...

One exploit is found... then it gets around.. and all of a sudden 100% of the network is exploitable!

Yippie!!!

That's why I can see a need for at least one other type of ircd. But more co-operation between the camps could be nice...

I guess the same could be said for the boxes that the ircd's run on..
Its well known that some kind of bsd is preffered...
I'd hate to see what happens if they find some kind of major flaw in bsd...
but.. hey.. the bsd purists say it will never happen... (oh really? never?)
and I guess that's what new kernels are for..

But still.. It couldnt hurt to run a few unix or linux or solaris based servers.. could it? :)

just a thought...

Cheers..
If any exploit was found in hybrid/ratbox/csircd you can bet EFnet admins would be upgrading their ircd's *very* quickly. I can't think of any serious incident in recent times where an EFnet server has been compromised. BSD is a type of UNIX :o I think there are at least a few Linux servers, the majority are certainly BSD.

Solaris eh? KEKEKE!

Oh, and I'd have to agree; I think the users, administrators and moderators of this new forum have been great :D
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Postby Auriga » Thu Aug 07, 2003 12:39 am

clunked wrote:
Auriga wrote: Pessimists!!!!!

Actually... when it really comes down to it..
Having more then one ircd helps keep servers stable..

Think about it...

One exploit is found... then it gets around.. and all of a sudden 100% of the network is exploitable!

Yippie!!!

That's why I can see a need for at least one other type of ircd. But more co-operation between the camps could be nice...

I guess the same could be said for the boxes that the ircd's run on..
Its well known that some kind of bsd is preffered...
I'd hate to see what happens if they find some kind of major flaw in bsd...
but.. hey.. the bsd purists say it will never happen... (oh really? never?)
and I guess that's what new kernels are for..

But still.. It couldnt hurt to run a few unix or linux or solaris based servers.. could it? :)

just a thought...

Cheers..
If any exploit was found in hybrid/ratbox/csircd you can bet EFnet admins would be upgrading their ircd's *very* quickly. I can't think of any serious incident in recent times where an EFnet server has been compromised. BSD is a type of UNIX :o I think there are at least a few Linux servers, the majority are certainly BSD.

Solaris eh? KEKEKE!

Oh, and I'd have to agree; I think the users, administrators and moderators of this new forum have been great :D
You missed the point of what i said i think..
Just saying.. if every server used the same ircd...
If an exploit was found... and it was found by a "kiddie" before it was found by the coders or admins...
You would end up with a situation where before you even know what hit you.. 100% of the network could be comprimised simultaniously...
All you need are 30 kiddies with 30 machines that know the vuln.. and Kabam.. anything they have an IP for and they can get to is comprimised..
We could even have a situation where hidden hubs are comprimised if the kiddy can get far enough into the confs of the servers to get C/N's... or sniffing.. anything...
Yes... a problem...
Admins and coders wouldnt know what hit them... till it was to late...

ANy admin or coder that finds a vuln will obviouslly fix it asap.. but..we all know that somtimes the wrong person finds the vuln before the right person does..

Also.. i'm aware that bsd is a type if unix... so is solaris.. so is linux technically...

I... as do many others.... clump the rest of the *nix's like SCO etc... into the one term unix... especally when you are specifically naming the other types...

Also.. AFAIK....
There are no linux servers left on efnet...
Though i could be wrong... Gosh things change so quickly on here... if there are any, its probably minisule.. like 1 or something... but I think the last linux server delinked some time ago... if im not mistaken.

With that said....
I'm gonna go dig out an alpha server...

Oh... about the windows thing...
nevermind.. I wont even go there :)
heh..
Cheers...

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Postby tiz » Thu Aug 07, 2003 12:42 am

Replying as promised Auriga...

Does EFnet have a RFC that gets updated after server votes? If so, I'd like to see it. Like the RFC for all communication between client and server and servers.


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Postby Auriga » Thu Aug 07, 2003 12:47 am

tiz wrote:Replying as promised Auriga...

Does EFnet have a RFC that gets updated with the server votes? If so, I'd like to see it.


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[20:44] <Auriga> RFC for server votes?
[20:44] <adsf`> good thinkin :p
[20:44] <Auriga> about what?
[20:44] <Auriga> like.. linking servers?
[20:44] <adsf`> ok off i go :p
[20:45] <Auriga> voting in servers?
[20:45] *** adsf` (~adsf@edit.of.addy.is.good.netiquite) Quit (Quit: dffd)
[20:45] <Auriga> or servers people ave voted for?
[20:45] <Auriga> be more specific :oP
[20:45] *** ph2 (ph1@edit.of.addy.is.good.netiquite) has joined #efnet.org
[20:45] *** zuez sets mode: +o ph2
[20:45] *** ozF sets mode: +o ph2
[20:45] <tiz> uh
[20:45] <tiz> gotta edit that
[20:45] <tiz> hehe
[20:45] <tiz> typing too fast
[20:45] <Auriga> no wait
[20:45] <Auriga> lemmie just paste what i said here
[20:45] <Auriga> lol
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Postby munky » Thu Aug 07, 2003 5:15 pm

i know it will bring me flames, but:
a properly coded/setup windows server wouldn't have any more problems than a *nix server. you think any servers on the network aren't filtered? you think if a win32 server were to link, it wouldn't have all 135-139&445 traffic blocked?

it's not hard to properly configure a win32 server (yes, even with IIS) with 135-139&445 blocked that would be just as hard to hack as any *nix server. the problem is it's too easy to setup a win32 server, so you get all these halfwit systems administrators putting up default IIS installs to run their corporate websites because linux+apache is too difficult for them. the problem isn't the OS, it's a PEBKAC issue.
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Postby Jepp » Thu Aug 07, 2003 6:42 pm

i agree with munkey.

and if anyone is willing to get me *easytohackme.com i would host a windows ircd :)
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